IT IS A BLOODBATH
January 14, 2024“It is a bloodbath. And you cannot ignore it.”
Israeli columnist and reporter Gideon Levy, speaks out on Israel’s ongoing war in Gaza.
Each moment becomes a heartbeat, a testament to the overwhelming human cost that leaves us grappling with the profound ache of empathy.
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English Script:
Christiane Amanpour: My first guest says there is no way to, quote, explain Israel’s conduct in Gaza. He is Gideon Levy, was an adviser to the late Prime Minister Shimon Peres, then leader of Israel’s Labor Party and is now a columnist for Haaretz. And he’s joining us from Tel Aviv. Gideon Levy, welcome back to our program. Can I just ask you to explain what you said yourself? There is no answer for this conduct. What do you exactly mean by that?
Gideon Levy: Look, by the time we will finish this interview, another baby will be killed in Gaza. By the time that you will finish your show. There will be another two women killed in Gaza. How long can this last? Israel had the full right to go for this campaign, for this war, but there must be limits. And we crossed them so long time ago. But above all, answering your question, where do we aim to? What will be to be any better for Israel’s security if another 20,000 Palestinians will be killed in Gaza? If another half a million people will lose their homes? What does this contribute for the security of Israel? We have to realize that the goals that Israel had declared are unachievable, or at least partly unachievable. And we should concentrate now about creating a new reality and not killing and killing for the purpose of killing.
Christiane Amanpour: Gideon, I want to get into that in a moment. But to answer and to illustrate what you just said about more babies, more women being killed, there is the latest and we have to say graphic video that’s coming in from Gaza today resulting from airstrikes last night. The hospital at Al-Aqsa there in Gaza says 57 people were killed, nearly 70 injured. At least ten of those were children, the hospital says. So, the government keeps saying they’re doing their best to avoid civilian death. The US keeps doing a shuttle diplomacy, which seems principally aimed at minimizing civilian deaths. Not only that, but also to minimize the chance of an expanded war. But in your mind, having covered so many of these Israel-Gaza wars, what is the point? What is the purpose? Three months in of this, as you put it, very heavy death toll. What is the strategic point?
Gideon Levy: I doubt very much if there is one. First of all, everyone is paying his lip service. The Americans, the Israelis, they do their best. The Americans ask gently Israel to refrain from killing civilians. But the outcome is very clear, it is a bloodbath.
Christiane Amanpour: Can I ask you about expanding the war? Because that also is a matter of great concern, especially to the surrounding nations and to the United States and its allies, basically Israel’s strongest allies, as you very well know, but I’ll just remind everybody what’s been happening. The assassination of the deputy Hamas leader in Beirut this past week, the killing of a Hezbollah leader in south Lebanon, one of which has been claimed by Israel, that one. Then, you know, there had been Hezbollah response in terms of targeting important Israeli targets inside Israel. And Alon Pinkas, who, as you very well know, a fellow columnist at Haaretz, but also a former Israeli consul general in New York, wrote this. He basically said Israel seems resigned to to the idea, in other words, actually wanting a bigger war, so much so, that a Washington Post article quoted U.S. officials expressing alarm and estimating that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is encouraging escalation as a key to his political survival, and further distancing himself from responsibility for the October 7th debacle. You know that is an incredibly damning thing for an actual Israeli former government official to say that any country would want an expanded war. Do you think there’s any truth in that at all?
Gideon Levy: First of all, I can only guess and only hope that there is no truth in it. I think that expanding this war also toward the northern front, namely against Hezbollah, will be a game changer and will create a reality that Israelis and Israel never met before. We should be aware to it. It’s very nice to talk here about expanding the war. But what can happen then, I think is much beyond we ever saw in Israel, in Tel Aviv, in Jerusalem, in Haifa and other places.
