ISRAEL ACCUSED OF ABUSING RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE
January 15, 2024Lewis Goodall holds Mark Regev accountable to the way that Israel has conducted its war against Hamas after Regev, an Israeli diplomat and former Foreign Minister to Benjamin Netanyahu, tells Goodall that South Africa’s charges of genocide in Gaza are ‘preposterous’, and that South Africa has become ‘Hamas’ lawyers’.
How Israel is prosecuting and using its right of self-defense is opening Israel up to charges of genocide, Goodall states.
Watch as Regez tries to dig himself out of the hole.
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لويس جودال يحمل مارك ريجيف المسؤولية عن الطريقة التي أدارت بها إسرائيل حربها ضد حماس بعد أن أخبر ريجيف، الدبلوماسي الإسرائيلي ووزير الخارجية السابق لبنيامين نتنياهو، جودال أن اتهامات جنوب أفريقيا بالإبادة الجماعية في غزة “منافية للعقل”، وأن جنوب أفريقيا أصبح “محامي حماس”.
ويقول جودال إن الطريقة التي تلاحق بها إسرائيل حقها في الدفاع عن النفس وتستخدمه، يعرض إسرائيل لتهم الإبادة الجماعية.
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English Script:
Lewis Goodall: In terms of what the lawyer to the court for South Africa said yesterday, Adila Hassim, one of the lawyers there, when he said that, quote, as I just said, “Every day there is mounting irreparable loss of life, property, dignity and humanity, humanity for the Palestinian people.” There can be no arguing with that, can there?
Mark Regev: I think the South African case is very sad because they’ve basically decided to become Hamas’ lawyer. And I paid very close attention to what they said yesterday. And it’s as if they mentioned Hamas just to tick the box, so to speak. They mentioned Hamas and they acknowledged that maybe Hamas did some bad things on October 7th, but the fact that there’s a war going on between Israel and Hamas is totally forgotten. It’s as if Israel is acting in a vacuum in Gaza. Israel is not acting within the right of every country to self-defense.
Lewis Goodall: Well, Mr. Regev, but as you know, but as you know, yes, of course, Israel has a right to self-defense. But as you know, as a state and particularly as a signatory to the convention, Israel does not have an unqualified right of self-defense. And what the South Africans are saying and these you know, they are supported by other states around the world. What they’re saying is the way…
Mark Regev: Iran and Syria, yes they’re supporting them.
Lewis Goodall: And other countries in the global south. And, you know, even your allies, including the United States and the United Kingdom, who have stood foursquare behind you in many ways have expressed concerns about Israel’s behavior. We saw Lord Cameron, the foreign secretary, the other day, saying that he is worried that there may have been a contravention of international humanitarian law by your state in Israel. So this is the point. Of course, you have a right to self-defense. The question is, is how you are prosecuting and using that right. And the accusation from South Africa and others to you is that you are abusing that right.
Mark Regev: So so, Lewis let’s be clear. I’m willing to have a serious conversation with the Brits, with the Americans about Israel’s tactics. We’re always willing to hear the thoughts of our friends and to engage and can we do a better job? That’s a good conversation to have, but that’s not what the South Africans are doing. The South Africans have adopted a full, you know… How do you say it? In total, the Hamas narrative and they’re accusing Israel of genocide and there the British government, the American government, other Western governments has stood up and said this is just simply not true.
This is a baseless claim. I think the Americans said this is without any merit. And you have to distinguish between what is a valid argument about a discussion about our tactics and we’re always, as I said, willing to hear and learn from our friends and allies. But this charge of genocide is totally preposterous. It’s outrageous.
Lewis Goodall: But, Mr. Regev, I mean, isn’t the case isn’t it the point that you have laid yourself open to that accusation in the manner in which you’ve conducted this war? 85% of Gaza’s population have been displaced. The World Food Program has said that 80% of the most hungry people in the world right now are in Gaza. That directly arises from the way in which you have prosecuted not just the war, but the way in which you have dealt with the humanitarian situation in Gaza. This was not the only way you could have conducted this war. That is the point. There were other options to you. You have not availed yourself of those options.
